15 juillet 2012
Protestul Demnitatii - Place du Trocadéro, Paris
Approximately fifty members of the Romanian diaspora in Paris braved the rain and wind to call for democracy in Romania once again at Place du Trocadéro this afternoon.
Slogans visible today:
"You have the right to remain silent, but we don't recommend it"
"Democracy not Oligarchy!"
"Democracy not Pontacracy!"
"Save ICR/Sauvez ICR"
"In mourning for Romania's Democracy"
"Please respect: the Constitutional Court, the Rule of Law, State Institutions!"
"Stand up for Democracy"
"On veut un gouvernement qui nous rend fiers, pas un qui nous fait honte!"
"La justice indépendante"
"Incetati intimidarea justitiei"
Bravo to the organisers and to all who turned out to express their concern and indignance.
The slogans speak for themselves - no further comment needed.
A third protest is planned for next Sunday (22nd July) at 14h. Please see HERE for further info.
Commentaires sur Protestul Demnitatii - Place du Trocadéro, Paris
- To the sender of 'critic'Someone just sent me this e-mail but with return address a 'no-reply' so I can only respond here seeing as they've obviously visited:
"critica
nu ai opinii ecilibrate-si nu ne intelegi realitatile-articolele tale nu reflecta realitatea noastra -ci sunt prelucrari-prin propriul interes-pacat ca scrii !-mai reflectaeza,,"
If the sender happens to see this, I would like to ask them to please expand. If they don't agree with my posts or my point of view, I have no problem with that at all, but would they please explain their's in order to aid my'reflection' a little.
Thank you! - "Save ICR" ?? From what? So i can understand it was better an institution at the disposal of one person than subordinated to the elected body of Senate. Does it make sense?
"Democracy not oligarchy" i suppose is against Basescu and PDL (you know - EBA in EP, Udrea, Ridzi, Anastase), they were "infiltrated there by USL
"Stand up for democracy" - let Basecu "push the buttons" of the black phone with12 dials I presume it is just a late response to the way Anastase was counting votes, to the manner "avocatul poporului" (a political figure, not elected but put there by political vote of Parliament and fired by the same institution, in the same way) was put in office by redoing the innitila ballot that didn't came out "right", to the fact that a majority that fired the government Boc was refused to have a PM in the person of Klaus Johannis. Did not hear any "standings" for democracy then !? So, was that democratic?
Respect CCR? For what? Political institution NON ELECTED. For adding to the constitution and creating laws that do not exist by its decisions? Like the decision of imposing a cvorum to the referendum to depose Basescu even in The Venice Comission recomends in an explicit way that cvorum are not recomendede for democracy? Not only that Venice Commission recomends that but the cvorum at referendum IS NOT PRESENT ANYWHERE in the constitution, as the rejection of a minister nomination is not there either. Never mind, CCR solves the problem and simpli invents the possibility of Basescu to say no if he has a bad mood ... "only once", for Zegrean to be ridiculous to the end ... You know of course, that the chairman of CCR put there by Basescu, responding even before he is asked,Zegrean is no judge and did not write any book on law therefore he is Nobody put there just to serve his Zeus. Should i respect that?
"La justice independente" !?? Is this a bad joke or what? Maybe Omar Haysam is laughing onthat, i don't. Last meeting in Cluj Basescu ("professor" of Haysam) said him self that "suspending him gave USL acces to justice". If anyone has any drop of logic wil understand that if somebody has acces to justice just by suspending Basescu means that Basescu had full acces to justice (we should be blind not to see that that through his puppets Kovesi and Morar that are keeping their jobs even if their mandate expired) and he is admitting that himself just by saying the thing he said at that meeting.
Sarah, if i knew you were going there i would have asked you to climb Tour Eiffel and look for those metal stamps and take a photo of them. I've been there 4 times, 2 to the top and 2 to first level and did not see any of them. I'd like to have a picture of "Made in Resita - Romania". - To AdrianHa! Ha! While I was there, I looked at the Eiffel Tower and thought the same thing
I know the 'short critic' wasn't you What I don't get is why they wrote to me via the 'contact the author' mail with an address I couldn't reply to, instead of putting it here or using their real e-mail... a bit strange. They obviously didn't want me to reply or know who they were, which means I know them. :/
- made in ResitaAdrian, I just found this - Cosmin will be thrilled!
http://dinu-1959.blogspot.fr/2009/12/made-in-resita-romania.html - slogansTo answer to Adrian...
" "Save ICR" ?? From what? So i can understand it was better an institution at the disposal of one person than subordinated to the elected body of Senate. Does it make sense?" Yes it does make sense and should NOT be under the senate
" "Democracy not oligarchy" i suppose is against Basescu and PDL (you know - EBA in EP, Udrea, Ridzi, Anastase), they were "infiltrated there by USL" - it's against both of them! PDL and USL
" "Stand up for democracy" - let Basecu "push the buttons" of the black phone with12 dials" the slogan is against the ACTIONS of Ponta, not pro or against either party... - To 'critic'Just one point to the person who sent me the 'critic':
"prelucrari prin propriul interes"
This is an accusation that, frankly, I do not deserve. I have no self interest whatsoever in writing what I do anymore than you have interest in reading it. I write because I enjoy it and what goes on in Romania interests me because I love it. It's a shame, on many levels, that it is populated...
Sad, suspicious person... - Puiu, it is so easy to say it should not be under the Senate and not explaining why ONE PERSON cand do whatever ana MANY elected persons are a terrifying perspective. Just because you say so? What will the Senate do with ICR that is so frightening and Bsescu haven't try it before?
I might agree with oligarchy in both sides but i wand to end at least one of them now, when i have the opportunity as a citizen. Do not like dictators that, like all dictators push the buttons of: corruption, lie, fear factor, personal decisions because he want ant can make them and all the rest have to pay for them (like the huge international loans that we will have to pay even we had a huge reserve at BNR - just for fun)
Among the actions of Ponta i agree that the movement of Monitorul Oficial is not "nice". All the rest are done by vote, the same way they were created. The referendum ordinace was reverting to a previous situation that was stated by a law. Nothing new, but urgent. Nobody was shot dead (ca sa parafrazez pe Gitenstein) ... even Anastase might deserve it ...
Sarah, nice short film there but still stoies about Resita and NO FACTS. No documents, no pictures. And strange enough, part of the wonderful structure of Cernavoda Bridge, the jewel of metal structures by Saligny, was built with metal parts imported from France. How come? - Halal de asemena limba romaneasca si de punctuatiile aferente:
"nu ai opinii ecilibrate-si nu ne intelegi realitatile-articolele tale nu reflecta realitatea noastra -ci sunt prelucrari-prin propriul interes-pacat ca scrii !-mai reflectaeza"
Nu numai ca insultati prin modul grosolan de a va exprima, dar si comiteti greseli grave de limba, justificate numai de lipsa educatie, de respect si ingustime de minte pentru blogul persoanei (Sarah). Cand veti avea curajul de a nu va ascunde in spatele a "no reply", atunci veti capata un raspuns la cele scrise. Poate intre timp va reimprospatati regulile de punctuatie care de obicei se invata in primele clase primare. - To AdrianDear Adrian,
I read your arguments, twice. The only thing that is obvious from them is that you fervently dislike Basescu and PDL and that you are prepared to twist reality in order to substantiate that dislike.
There is, however, one reality, best seen, for an objective view, from a distance. From London, for instance. Or Paris, for that matter.
That reality, today, is that in the past two months a number of democratic values have been ignored and/or trampled by those in Power.
Numerous Romanian ngos, not politically affiliated, have said it repeatedly. Many EU representatives have, also, expressed their concern and a list of requests in order to redress the democratic character of the Romanian state has been issued by the Mr. Barroso and the European Commission.
For those who look at the facts, and are not blinded by emotions, it becomes obvious that the political crisis intensified once Mr. Nastase's prison sentence was confirmed (We must not forget the embarassing Grajdan episode). Could it be that Mr. Voiculescu (the real Power behind the Antonescu-Ponta couple) took fright and decided to implement his scheme to un-seat Mr. Basescu before his conviction becomes a reality? A plan, already made public at the beginning of this year at Antena 3. More than likely. The
rest is smoke and mirrors. A bit like the Romanian 'revolution' once Ceausescu had been apprehended by the conspirators (Iliescu, among them, who continues to be a prominent figure in today's USL).
May I also suggest that if the only source of information is Antena 3 it is virtually impossible to have a balanced view of reality.
I recommend a quiet read of: The Economist, The New York Times, Washington Post, The International Herald Tribune, Le Figaro, Le Monde, El Pais, Die Welt, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, among others.
And I haven't even mentioned Nature and Mr. Ponta's plagiarized Phd thesis or his non-existent Master degrees.
O zi frumoasa,
RW - Multumesc Roxanei W. pentru excelentul comentariu de mai sus. Intr-adevar, si eu m-am gandit ca Voiculescfu este cel care manevreaza evenimentele la care asistam si cred ca are toate armele necesare dar in primul rand antenele. Sunt total de acord ca toti ar trebui sa citim ce scriu ziarele straine. Aici este cel din Le Monde:
http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2012/07/16/la-roumanie-contre-l-europe_1734167_3232.html - DanaPentru ca citesti romaneste, vezi aici: http://www.venice.coe.int/docs/2007/CDL-AD(2007)008-rom.pdf mergi la ultima pagina unde se vorbeste despre cvorum. Am impresia ca nu Voiculescu a redactat textul cu pricina ...
- RoxanaDear Roxana, sinc we know each other well enough, i will not feel ofended by the fact that you are implying that i don't have a brain of my own since i would need the Economist to analyse a fact. Basescu refused to nominate Klaus Johannis as prime minister since he was proposed by a majority that dismissed Boc. That is a fact even if it is presented by Antena 3 or The New York Times.
Then, you said you read my arguments twice but you did not refer to them not even once. I never mentioned in my arguments neither Voiculescu or Pora or other public characters who will PRESUME something.
Request of Barosso to impose a quorum at the referendum is abusive since this is an issue not settled in Europe and even we might say it is a question rather rejected by the Venice Commission (se their documents on their site and not on New York Times). The constitution it self mentiones referendum in an explicit way only twice - to set a maximum period of time to organize it in case of impechment of president and to alow the president to innitiate a referendum. I might see this even not watching Antena 3, i believe you agree on that. So please, take the time to review for the third time my arguments, forget about all COmMENTS from the media you mentioned and tell me what exactly you meant by the "distortion" you saw in my comment of some realities of our life. You said that everybody looking at a fact will see something but you actually did not mention any of the facts i did, but turned to Nastase, Iliescu, Voiculescu !?
I am deeply sorry to see that THE AMOUNT of oppinion expressed is qualifying something to be right. (you said " Numerous Romanian ngos, not politically affiliated, have said it repeatedly. Many EU representatives have, also, expressed their concern"). Do you have any ideea how many scholars and authorities in the Middle Age were puting Earth in the center of the Universe? Those saying that was not the case were not so many therefore even burned to the stake ... - forgotIf Nature does not make public the plagiarism of Kovesi, that doesn't mean it could not exist. I believe it has the same rank in importance as Ponta's. Don't you? Still, does not beat the fact that Anastase was a fraud and that she was removed from office by vote, the same she was imposed there. Nobody seemed to protest in Europe when Geoana was deposed the same way ... by vote.
good for them
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